Gamma + tonemapped EXR's

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neepneep
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Gamma + tonemapped EXR's

Post by neepneep » Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:32 am

I'm not sure if this is a bug but after exporting tonemapped EXR's I always find I have to halve the gamma with Photoshop (more like 46%) to get the EXR to look the same as the indigo output window & the PNG.

It's not that serious of an issue - more of an annoyance, but I'm sure it puts a lot of people off using tonemapped EXR's because the output is not as one expects :(
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Post by alex22 » Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:04 am

The exact value could be 1/2.2, since 2.2 is the gamma value most monitors use. The higher the gamma value, the darker the picture gets. You probably just changed the gamma from 1 to ~2.2.

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Post by Kram1032 » Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:57 am

so the accurate gamma would be 0,4545454545454545.......

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Post by neepneep » Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:14 am

ah that would definitely explain it... :D ! thanks alextwentytwo!

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Post by CTZn » Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:31 am

and that leads us to the conclusion that there is some reverse gamma correction missing... Mmmh, bug ?
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Post by Kram1032 » Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:44 am

not quite I guess....
I somewhere read, that gamma gets less and less useful, with increasing bit-depth of colour.
Gamma basically distorts the colours sothat less information is lost in dark spots where noone can see it anyway and more of it is found in the brighter, easier distinquishable parts of a picture.

For 256 colours/channel, that's very useful...
For 65536 cpc, it's still quite useful (16bit images)
but for float 32-bit, it's probably not really nessecairy.....

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Post by CTZn » Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:22 am

Number of colors and light dynamics balance are certainly correlated, but I think gamma could be necessary because users expect that ?
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Post by Kram1032 » Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:52 am

true ^^

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Post by Zom-B » Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:28 am

I complained about this years ago, but nobody listened :cry:

Maybe this is also a result about the few extra pixels in size the exr have compared to your output settings :P
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