Preview of new Indigo Material Editor

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Re: Preview of new Indigo Material Editor

Post by OnoSendai » Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:37 am

dakiru wrote:This is great! :) I have one question - will it be possible to add a custom preview scene (or model)?
Yes, it will be.

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Re: Preview of new Indigo Material Editor

Post by dakiru » Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:09 pm

OnoSendai wrote:Yes, it will be.
Super, thank you!

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Re: Preview of new Indigo Material Editor

Post by Whaat » Tue Sep 15, 2009 2:31 am

I know it's annoying when you get requests before you've released it, but here are two of mine:
* realtime texture previews (so you can see how A,B,C and gamma affect the texture)
* Shader previews

Looking forward to it!

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Re: Preview of new Indigo Material Editor

Post by pixie » Tue Sep 15, 2009 3:11 am

Whaat wrote:* realtime texture previews (so you can see how A,B,C and gamma affect the texture)
You don't have to wait, you can use Cindigo already :D

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Re: Preview of new Indigo Material Editor

Post by neo0. » Wed Sep 16, 2009 11:08 am

I don't think we have to worry about misuse of the material DB. Unlike many places on the internet, the indigo community is pretty mature. ...


I am really happy to see a stand alone material editor, even more so, interaction with the online material DB..

So, far it's looking pretty good. The material preview is good.. I only hope that the preview starts automatically whenever you make changes to the material.. and without a separate indigo window. :)

The only other problem is that, as many people have mentioned, the UI is a little confusing. On the left hand side, it looks like a window for selecting your material, kind of like photoshop's tabed interface for working with multiple documents.. On the right side, well.. I guess it's a blend material, but I feel like complex blend hierarchies could be represented in a much clearer way..

Also, I think certain buttons would be better presented as visual icons. For example, the "add new material" would be clearer as a plus button.
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Re: Preview of new Indigo Material Editor

Post by Godzilla » Wed Sep 16, 2009 11:25 am

neo0. wrote:I don't think we have to worry about misuse of the material DB. Unlike many places on the internet, the indigo community is pretty mature. ...
That doesn't mean that some external person(s) can't just register and misuse it.

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Re: Preview of new Indigo Material Editor

Post by neo0. » Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:04 pm

Godzilla wrote:
neo0. wrote:I don't think we have to worry about misuse of the material DB. Unlike many places on the internet, the indigo community is pretty mature. ...
That doesn't mean that some external person(s) can't just register and misuse it.
True, but bigger places usually get targeted more often. Indigo is a fairly obscure, small community compared to some place like the Steam Forums.

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Re: Preview of new Indigo Material Editor

Post by OnoSendai » Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:24 pm

Hi Ne0, others.
There will be lots of styling done before the final release, including making nice shiny button icons. I do like your Add material button.

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Re: Preview of new Indigo Material Editor

Post by neo0. » Wed Sep 16, 2009 1:35 pm

Thanks. I was afraid that my "site redesign" had really given people a very negative impression of my design skills. :)
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Re: Preview of new Indigo Material Editor

Post by benn » Wed Sep 16, 2009 4:02 pm

lol neo0, what's with the title of your file attachment? haha.

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Re: Preview of new Indigo Material Editor

Post by CTZn » Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:43 pm

A manner to say he's got a ... ;)

My concern about mat upload would in fact rather be quality than quantity. A few propositions:
  • - At a minimum, users should be able to report lowQ IGMs or offensive material, as Godzilla pointed out [!].

    - Low, or unrated materials could be candidates for pruning after a given period (3-6 months ?). That could be voted in the forum, at least motivated by a PM to the owner (lack of accuracy, maps quality, whatever).

    - I'm plaiding again for a temp section, wich might be accessible to all but not necessarily put ahead. The owner would specify the destination category, users/mods would confirm the move (situational ex: "you asked for that material of mines in that post of yours, I uploaded it please rate it.").
What are your propositions to keep things under control ? Is that even necessary according to you ?
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Re: Preview of new Indigo Material Editor

Post by neo0. » Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:50 pm

Maybe an IM like sharing feature where people could send materials to each other?

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Re: Preview of new Indigo Material Editor

Post by CTZn » Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:58 pm

Well, there are already plenty of solutions to share files privately.

My point is to allow a stronger moderation than just five stars.

No, that's not 6 stars :P ;)

edit: though... how about adding 2 buttons:

- report as offensive material: gets preventively hidden/locked, requiring moderation to be unveiled. moderated materials would have their [report offensive] button disabled until next update.

- report as low quality material: candidate for pruning. A public thread/forum to finally vote pruning would then be nice.

Both actions would require confirmation to avoid mistakes.

Massively edited post ;) Thoughts ?
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Re: Preview of new Indigo Material Editor

Post by neo0. » Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:27 pm

True, but those other solutions wouldn't integrate seamlessly with indigo.. :wink:

As for reporting, why not just have a youtube like system where you can flag materials and then specify the reason?
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Re: Preview of new Indigo Material Editor

Post by PureSpider » Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:29 pm

Imagine a bot adepting to the matDB, registering here and uploading lots of bogus mats with child porn preview pics...
And by lots, I mean LOTS!
Better prevent this BEFORE it happens, not flag lots of mats afterwards...

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