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Re: Temptation

Post by Godzilla » Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:53 pm

Doug Armand wrote:
tungee wrote:Why are so afraid, that your ideas? could copied?
:?:
I believe he's talking about the huge copyright text..

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Re: Temptation

Post by Doug Armand » Thu Feb 18, 2010 5:51 pm

ahhh - well don't see why its a problem - doesn't hide/block anything of importance.

Copyright theft is a big problem - the copyright stamp is a small partial attempt at a solution :wink:
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Re: Temptation

Post by Doug Armand » Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:02 pm

tungee wrote:Why are so afraid, that your ideas? could copied?
Why are you so annoyed by it? :?

loads of graphic 'artists' use copyright symbols on their work - it's standard practice in the industry. Copyright theft is a serious problem.

Now if what your really saying is - why would anyone want to steal that crappy image/idea? then you should just say so :wink:
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Re: Temptation

Post by CTZn » Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:18 pm

... and then it would quickly grab the cheese block and push the plate onto the closest trap, triggering one hell of a motion blur situation ...

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Re: Temptation

Post by Zom-B » Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:36 pm

Doug Armand wrote:loads of graphic 'artists' use copyright symbols on their work - it's standard practice in the industry. Copyright theft is a serious problem.
Yes its a problem if you consider some n00bish Graphic-Kids as a threat to your business :roll:
No advertise company would risk to get sued their a** for copyright theft... since using images for
public advertising makes it somehow... yes.. public.
If a image is to expensive they choose another, shoot another or let it rebuild in 3D to have their own personalized and optimized version!
I work in the advertising biz, and know what I talk about!

If somebody uses your image for a party invitation... well who cares!
Also if some poor student in India uses your image for a printed T-shirt he sells there for 5$
at some beach, copyrighting your image would only prevent him to use it (choosing another from the internet), but he never would pay you for it!!!
Instead I would be proud to see my Image get used... even without getting the honor for it... my ego isn't so high on steroids!

Same senseless stuff like Movie company's telling us that they loose XXX Million of $$ income because people
watch their movies illegally online... 75% of this people would not go into a cinema for this flick if not availible "for free"...

Finaly to resume this and not to get understood wrong: I argue about the "copyright theft problem", not about your choice to watermark your images, I'm totally fine with this :)

btw: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pssqhyS ... r_embedded
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Re: Temptation

Post by Doug Armand » Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:40 pm

Things are changing - but what the hey - if I want to plaster copyright logo's over my own wholly created work who are you or anyone else to say no? what harm does it do to you eh :?:

here in the UK things are about to get harder for people who create things and I am just making sure I do all I can to stay ahead of the game - not sure where your based but you may want to check out locally whats happening as your 'in the biz' as you say.

http://www.copyrightaction.com/forum/uk ... lic?page=1

I don't see what the big deal is with putting a copyright symbol on my work - can you give me a reason why i shouldn't?
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Re: Temptation

Post by pixie » Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:19 am

Doug Armand wrote:Things are changing - but what the hey - if I want to plaster copyright logo's over my own wholly created work who are you or anyone else to say no? what harm does it do to you eh :?:
We all have opinions and we're always entitled to it whether you agree with those or not, obviously no one is forcing to dump the watermark, you might well put some noise, trash it altogether and, obviously, you would be entitled to do it. IMO there are other ways to protect your work, you can add it to the proper channels (the file attributes with all the meta stuff about the picture), I know there's nothing stopping someone from removing those, but there's no stopping from someone cropping your watermark either. In the end I have no problem with your watermark only that it distracts from the image and that IMO it's not up to the image standard.
Doug Armand wrote:here in the UK things are about to get harder for people who create things and I am just making sure I do all I can to stay ahead of the game - not sure where your based but you may want to check out locally whats happening as your 'in the biz' as you say.

http://www.copyrightaction.com/forum/uk ... lic?page=1

I don't see what the big deal is with putting a copyright symbol on my work - can you give me a reason why i shouldn't?
Being public, you might get several reasons, hundreds, thousands, for and against, you know, each one has their own view on what it's public. ;)

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Re: Temptation

Post by Zom-B » Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:12 am

Doug Armand wrote:Things are changing - but what the hey - if I want to plaster copyright logo's over my own wholly created work who are you or anyone else to say no? what harm does it do to you eh :?:
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I don't see what the big deal is with putting a copyright symbol on my work - can you give me a reason why i shouldn't?
stay cool and please read again carefully:
Zom-B wrote:Finally to resume this and not to get understood wrong: I argue about the "copyright theft problem", not about your choice to watermark your images, I'm totally fine with this :)
Doug Armand wrote:here in the UK things are about to get harder for people who create things and I am just making sure I do all I can to stay ahead of the game - not sure where your based but you may want to check out locally whats happening as your 'in the biz' as you say.

http://www.copyrightaction.com/forum/uk ... lic?page=1
I'm based in Germany and can tell you that we don't have such strange laws in the pipeline!
Thanks god this is "only" related to Photos and not to other visual art with output format jpg :lol:
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Re: Temptation

Post by Doug Armand » Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:27 am

I seem to remember having a similar discussion a while back here - seems I'm one of the few who worry about this however:
pixie wrote: but there's no stopping from someone cropping your watermark either. In the end I have no problem with your watermark only that it distracts from the image and that IMO it's not up to the image standard
Ahhh but you see if someone deliberately removes it they can no longer use the 'I didn't know who the copyright belonged to' excuse - it makes a big difference when trying to get justice :wink:

All i can say is that if, and it is if, I post more material here it will always be with both embedded and visible copyright. 8)
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Re: Temptation

Post by PureSpider » Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:47 am

Blargh!
Nice image, copyright fights just make it worse.
So zip the sh*t and comment about the image, not the watermark only.
Its not a white image with some copyright text on, you know? :roll:

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Re: Temptation

Post by Doug Armand » Fri Feb 19, 2010 4:33 am

PureSpider wrote:So zip the sh*t
I agree - no more posts from me on this :lol:
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