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Post by eman7613 » Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:41 am

apple makes some nice study laptops, but enless you want to deal with some of the more random problems of OSX then stay away (though i like em).

toshiba makes some good ones, also sturdy n well priced.

pioneer computers (austrialian) also makes some good stuff, and lets you configure the hell outa much of their stuff.

they be my 3 favorite people for laptops.
Yes i know, my spelling sucks

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Post by handsomedave » Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:44 am

Avoid HP laptops like they are infected with the black plague. I was having an issue with mine missing keypresses about 6 weeks after the warranty was up. HPs' tech supported wanted $60 dollars just to talk to me because it was out of warranty. I'll never by HP again. If you can order from dell as a business you can get a good deal and excellent tech support.

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Post by pxl666 » Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:38 am

hmm
guys guys...
introducing http://www.pcmicroworks.com/blackhawk.htm
just tell what ya think...
cheers

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Post by Olis » Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:03 am

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Post by pxl666 » Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:36 pm

Olis wrote:This one has quadcore as well:
http://www.sagernotebook.com/product_cu ... ?pid=29175
yepp but total ram is 4gig instead of 8...anyway - mine would cost 3000$...lotsa...

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Post by BbB » Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:42 pm

This is a really interesting thread, and the last two examples are real stunners!

I'm thinking of upgrading my laptop right now. The hardest bit (unless you have unlimited funding) is to try and figure out which bells and whistles you can do without.
I wonder if a quad-core laptop isn't a bit over the top for me. I let all my renderings cook on two networked desktops (a quad and a core duo 2.4Gigs) and I hardly do anything else with them.
All the modeling, setting-up of scenes is done on a laptop. But an old core duo at 1.6Ghz is slow even for test renders, and I often reach the top of my 2Gigs, not to mention the almost non-existent graphic card, which makes navigating big scenes tricky.
So I guess this laptop would just need a bit more memory (4gigs wouldn't be bad - I never maxed this out on my desktops), a 64-bit system, a bigger graphic card, and about twice the processing power though not necessarily four cores since I wouldn't let a render cook over 20 hours+ on a laptop anyway. Storage isn't much of an issue. I got only applications on my laptop, all the textures, scene files, images and such are stored centrally in a network drive accessible to my desktops.
Of course, an alternative investment could be a third desktop (a basic quad with 4gigs to work in tandem with the other one).
Keep them suggestions coming. I'm loving it!

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Post by OnoSendai » Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:45 pm

I'm suprised quad core laptops don't melt!
They would probably need a very high RPM fan when using full CPU, which means they would be very noisy.

I'd go for something like a dual core, 4GB ram, 64 bit OS machine.

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Post by BbB » Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:49 pm

I'd go for something like a dual core, 4GB ram, 64 bit OS machine
Yep. Also think so. I think I'd have a hard time leaving my highly inflammable house with a quad core laptop firing on all cylinders.

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Post by Comm512 » Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:03 pm

Arg... when i see all the examples posted i say to myself that one of those laptops will almost never be mine.. i dont have that kind of money. at least not now :)

And i visited some stores here and they all say: No 64 bit OS preinstalled on any laptop. So i could by the laptop, buy 64 bit Vista for 95 Euro, and *try* to find the correct drivers for all the stuff on the laptop. Or use linux Ubuntu or so
Im no big fan of linux just because i am not used to it. And i am already in unknown territory when it comes to Indigi and Blender.. at least the OS of Vista will be somewhat familiar as apposed to Ubuntu.. Good luck me if i want to get wireless and all network stuff done in an unknown OS

I think i will have to settle for a 32 bit os for now. The laptop im kinda interested in does have a 64 bit Core2Duo T5550, 3gb and a nvidia card..
My scenes will probably not be as large as BbB's at first.. so i think i will be set for a few years.

Why is it so hard to get a laptop with a 64 bit OS preinstalled? I want a preinstalled one because i want to be able to restore my system with all correct drivers.. and i thought that the recover features of a laptop includes the os and all correct drivers

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Post by BbB » Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:33 pm

There is indeed no point getting a 64-bit proc and 4gig of ram while using a 32-bit OS...

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Post by Olis » Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:56 pm

Comm512 wrote:The laptop im kinda interested in does have a 64 bit Core2Duo T5550, 3gb and a nvidia card..
I'd avoid the T5550 since it's outdated and is built with 65nm technology. A laptop with a processor from the T8000 or T9000 series will be much better.
The T8000 and T9000 series are built with 45nm technology and are therefore less hot than 65nm. I have a T8300 running at 2.4GHz and it rarely runs really hot and my laptop is really quiet.
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Post by pxl666 » Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:16 am

q 6600 laptops are big and heavy as they are rather desktop replacements. personally i would go for blackhawk if i could afford it.such a mobile power laptop is truly my dream. im not afraid of heat issue as i believe manufacturers took it into account. if i would build a desktop i definitely would go for liquid cooling. honestly - i wonder if there will be time when liquid nitrogen systems are widely available.not to mention protein or quantum computers hehehehe (aquarium with small brain with I/O for monitor and stuff)

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Post by zsouthboy » Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:27 am

I have a Dell XPS M1730.
I do all my modelling and preview rendering on it.
I bought it with the lowest end CPU it comes with (A T7300 @ 2 ghz), bought a core2 x9000 (2.8 ghz) from elsewhere, and swapped it in. The motherboard has built-in options for overclocking the X series CPUs.
At 3.4 ghz, it's about 2/3 to 3/4 the speed of my Q6600 (2.4 ghz) box when I network render between the two.

It's got 2 x Geforce 8800 GTXs in it - I only ever have one enabled (I run Blender and World of Warcraft - it's more than beefy enough for both)

It's got 2 x 200 GB hard drives in it, that I have in RAID 0 (striping) mode - so it's fast, but I save NO important data on it (if either drive dies, I would lose all data.)

This thing flies. (once I got Vista off it. God, what a piece of crap. Running XP 64 now!)

I took my previous laptop (Dell XPS m170, two generations behind), wiped it, tossed Windows Media Center on it, and stuck it under my TV - it came with an MCE remote and stuff, so now I use it to watch movies and shows I've got on my network anyways.

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Post by BbB » Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:47 am

Sounds like a good setup. Nothing a tech-idiot like me would ever attempt though ;-)

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Post by zsouthboy » Fri Jun 13, 2008 5:36 am

I'd take your artistic talent (=hellooo ladies!) over my technical prowess(=I'm here to fix your computer. Please tell me all about your boyfriend.) anyday, BbB :P

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