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do you think we'll...
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:31 am
by zamolet
have to pay for indigo soon or it'll remain free or be opensource

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:35 am
by CTZn
I can't forsee.
Meanwhile, donate

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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:47 am
by Kram1032
Ono said, he wants to make it free for non-commercial use and pay for commercial, if I remember correctly...
He also said, he wants to make it Open Source, but it's very hard to sell something AND make it Open Source.... So that's not to be expected...
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:50 am
by deltaepsylon
isnt there some kind of license that allows the program and its source to be used free for individual use, but not for commercial use? even if the sourec is available?
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:53 am
by Kram1032
the problem might be, that you have to "hide" the source for commercial use - or it might get copied or such.... Hard to evidence
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:23 am
by deltaepsylon
so ono cud give the source to longstanding members of the indigo community only! and under the oath of not distributing the code 2 anyone else
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:24 am
by Kram1032
that wouldn't be open source anymore....
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:25 am
by deltaepsylon
ok ok, how about a 100 posts minimum limit?
edit: i good idea. We could have a small pixel value modified to a certain number, and that pixel would always stay that way, so it'd be like a watermark, only 1 pixel though.
that way if some company is producing images and art commercially, we could see the watermark.
or ono could just write his own license file thingy, and if any company violates it he can sue em and get big bucks!
uinsg open source software commercially without paying as the license specifies is considered software pircay i think...?
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:29 am
by Kram1032

Open Source doesn't need any "trust criteria" and: there are some ppl, that where here for years and have, like, 20 post, where as I'm here for ~1year and have my thousand posts
(and don't come with a time limit, now... there sure is a solution, but it might be quite complicated)
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:04 am
by jurasek
deltaepsylon wrote:ok ok, how about a 100 posts minimum limit?
lol
greetz,
jur
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:57 am
by StompinTom
how about you ask him directly?
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:58 am
by deltaepsylon
LOL thats a good idea. He dont seem to annswer PM though....
maybe we should start a topic in News and Announcements.
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:06 am
by zsouthboy
There are two main styles of open source:
1)BSD style: "Here's the source, do what you want with it, I don't care."
2)GNU style: "Here's the source, do what you want with it, but DON'T integrate it into a project that is not also open source."
Neither fit Nick's needs.
He could, however, do some sort of dual-licensing, like the MySQL folks do: public release and commercial release.
Public is open source, commercial releases are not.
[The incentive is support; that's how you make money.]
Personally, I do not want all of Nick's hard work to go unrepaid - Indigo would better served as open source at the END of its lifecycle.
IMO of course.
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:10 am
by deltaepsylon
actually: it can become shareware that costs like 5-15 USD, i know that about 100 pple would buy it at least, or I would at least. Then after a while, it could become opensource, cuz the reason that pple pirate software is cuz its too expensive, so if its a low price, more pple buy it and ono makes good hard cold cash...

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:11 am
by CTZn
Bah, don't bother Ono with such questions.
This was discussed a lot in the past and obviously Ono doesn't like much commenting on the topic.
However... everyone wants 12 oclock to be at its door, but sure things are rolling anyway.
Comercial Future of Indigo
it's possible now to buy a pre-licence of indigo?
Do a search, and if you're bored read the license again
