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shuttle sp35p2 pro case + motherboard
intel Q6600 G0 95W quad 2.4ghz
4GB RAM
GeForce 8800GT 512Mb graphics

And let me guess.., you're fairly happy about it? lol

lol, some of has like already got:

2.67 ghz single core
512 mb ram
128 mb graphics.

...

That's a great chip, if your memory timings are loose enough (5-5-5-15 maybe) you can get 3.0ghz easy as pie without raising the voltage = little/no heat increase... that's what I do. Keep the chip temp under 60C and never a difference more than 15C or so between cold and hot and you'll run completely stable with it.

You've done the right thing. I'm very satisfied with mine.
BTW. Anyone using VISTA 64 bit? Experiences?

Vista is ok, but it's really only good for eye candy. Xp is better and with sp3 speed improvement it'd be dumb to go vista. Not to mention Ubuntu is so far along now you can't beat a xp/ubuntu dual boot. Ubunto + 3d desktop(whatever they call it now) makes vista look like a toy heh In case you wondered I got a xp/vista/ubuntu tri-boot.

Vista 64 Bit is nice, works fine

The Master is back.... I hope you had some nice holidays Ono

Yep, I'm running Vista 64bit here too.... everything fine, but you'll have to keep in mind that 64bit is a little bigger in program size, and hungry about RAM.

I'm just geting my extra 2GB of RAM and an ATI 3850, so working and playing will be a charm again here.

Shuttles are really great little machines. Having one will leave you feeling like a pig in shit

I plan to tri-boot this new machine with XP32/Vista64/Ubuntu64

Am i right in thinking that I'll have to install them in that order to get the bootloaders to sort themselves out?

Correct thats the same as I have. You'll really be seeing 2 bootloaders. There's a way around it, but I wouldn't suggest it since it takes a bit of code tinkering to make it work and have a double loader config is no big deal anyhow. You'll just select "Vista" or "older version of windows on one loader, then at the other loader select windows or ubuntu.
Put in the Ubuntu disc and create your partitions first and have them good to go then install in the XP, Vista, Ubuntu order.

I forgot to mention that I'm very security savvy so it's probably a good thing to point out that peerguardian isn't working well with vista yet. Not to mention the security of vista is more annoying than helpful 90% of the time and the vast majority of people turn it off(not smart). Not to say there isn't potential in Vista but even at this point it's still a newborn(can you say that about a program that took 5 years and millions to make lol? ) I'd make sure you're blocking scripts and similiar in vista since every hacker and there mother are working on destroying it heh.

Yeah i ran vista for about 6 months last year, but I missed having some programs that only ran in xp32, so i'm back on that for now.

Another approach I just thought of is to run the machine solely on Ubuntu, but with windows in virtual machines

If I can work out a sensible way to set up the bootloaders, using the new (empty) machine to practice getting it right, I will probably reformat this one and do the same... this machine hardly ever runs in 64bit mode, and I feel that's a little bit of a waste.

Looks like an awesome system Dougal. I'll ask the question that anyone can ask.....Why not wait a little more time to get new Intel chip with new nVidia card?

I know it is never a good time to get a new system but I try to tell people that there are better times and also not so good times. Upgrading right before a new Intel chip and a new nVidia line of cards seems like a not so good time to upgrade. But I guess this concept assumes your going to use your PC for certain tasks that will require these new parts. (extra speed is always a good thing, although buying the same PC when the new parts come out should result in cheaper prices) I haven't researched the prices lately but I'll guess they are quite high for these parts because the new ones haven't come out yet? (which also suggests the not so good time to upgrade)

I'm on track to upgrade this year. Finally can retire my 4-5 year old PC. I will miss the nVidia Soundstorm I have been very attached too. Scratchy sound does not exist on Soundstorm. I sure hope PC audio cards have improved since I last used them.

I don't mean to sound down or anything, I'm sure you have your reasons to get the new PC. So enjoy it!

The CPU itself was on offer. fairly cheap actually.
the GeForce is an OEM cheapo too, I have to admit

I spent the most on the shuttle barebones, as I love them.

I very nearly bought a Phenom system, but was convinced to go Intel.

This will end my AMD run of machines, going back nearly 10 years:

Athlon64 3500+ / Sempron64 3300+ / Sempron32 3100+ / AthlonXP 1600+ / K6 500 .... before that I had a 200mhz but that was probably an intel, I can't remember. Before that was a 486DX4/100

My 6600 is my first Intel since my old thunderbird. These cpus are just stupid easy to OC, so no sense in buying anything newer for 2-3 times the cost heh