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Layer Blending Video
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:38 am
by Whaat
Here is a sample video to demonstrate layer blending.
Download Video
Re: Layer Blending Video
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:31 am
by psor
Awesome Whaat! The only thing that bugs me is, ... the TV!
You can't dim a TV do ya?!
take care
psor
Re: Layer Blending Video
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:58 am
by Whaat
haha!! You're right! But in Indigo, you CAN dim a TV!

Actually the image on the TV is what bugs me. For some reason, the image of the sunset came out sideways!!

Re: Layer Blending Video
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:53 am
by zeitmeister
Great test!
Ben should place it on the website as a demo for layer-blending.
Re: Layer Blending Video
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:22 am
by Borgleader
zeitmeister wrote:Great test!
Ben should place it on the website as a demo for layer-blending.
Yes however it would be better if it were streaming from the page. More people will watch it that way.
Re: Layer Blending Video
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:33 am
by psor
Borgleader wrote:zeitmeister wrote:Great test!
Ben should place it on the website as a demo for layer-blending.
Yes however it would be better if it were streaming from the page. More people will watch it that way.
+1
btw. I did forget to ask the most important question.
How did you do it Whaat?!
take care
psor
Re: Layer Blending Video
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:58 am
by Borgleader
psor wrote:
+1
btw. I did forget to ask the most important question.
How did you do it Whaat?!
take care
psor
Most likely rendered the scene with all the "lights on" and played with the light layers and waited for indigo to pass the save period to copy the .png to a new file until each individual changes scene in the video were done, and used a video editing software to blend it all. I think it is the easiest and most "popular" method.
Re: Layer Blending Video
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 11:09 am
by psor
Hahahaaa, that's exactly what I didn't want to hear.
I was waiting for a magical trick that would prevent
this procedere. Well, ... we need another solution!
take care
psor
Re: Layer Blending Video
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 11:12 am
by Borgleader
psor wrote:Hahahaaa, that's exactly what I didn't want to hear.
I was waiting for a magical trick that would prevent
this procedere. Well, ... we need another soltion!
psor
Well thats not very long, especially if you have a very short save period....
Re: Layer Blending Video
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 11:16 am
by psor
Hmm, but for such an animation you should have at least 15fps,
better 25fps to have a smooth transition. So it will need definately
some time. Maybe I'm missing something tho.
take care
psor
Re: Layer Blending Video
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 11:56 am
by Borgleader
psor wrote:Hmm, but for such an animation you should have at least 15fps,
better 25fps to have a smooth transition. So it will need definately
some time. Maybe I'm missing something tho.
take care
psor
Hehe yes you are, you only need the "extreme points" the interpolation is done by the video editor, you'll say "frame 0, image001 100%" "frame 45, image001 0%" (at which point image002 will show up completely and then you repeat this for all the images you have)
Re: Layer Blending Video
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:34 pm
by psor
Oooh, yes of course. I was still in the "unbiased" mode and thought about an unbiased solution.

Well, then it's even better to have .exr support to be able to blend these in post.
Thanks for the input mate!
take care
psor
Re: Layer Blending Video
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:35 pm
by Borgleader
psor wrote:Oooh, yes of course. I was still in the "unbiased" mode and thought about an unbiased solution.

Well, then it's even better to have .exr support to be able to blend these in post.
Thanks for the input mate!
take care
psor
No problem

Re: Layer Blending Video
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:46 pm
by cpfresh
really nice video whaat. great job.
Re: Layer Blending Video
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:05 pm
by CTZn
Borgleader wrote:I think it is the easiest and most "popular" method.
In other words: he saved each light layer on a separate image after it was converged, by setting the other layers off. Then mixed them together back in a video editing software.
I think your explanation was a bit confusing in first instance, Borgleader, so I dared
I wish the next layer blending video will tell a story, for instance by blending the daylight continuously all over the animation, and using stupid switches for lamps
Probably the best one around, nice whaat !