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Skindigo, Focal Point problem [Known Bug]

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:13 am
by joeyslucky22
Hello everyone,

I'm extremely impressed with the quality of indigo rendered images I've seen about on the internet and I decided to get my hands dirty as well.

I'm trying to set the focal point in my image to focus on a door handle close to the camera rather than the wall in the distance, but when I apply the focal point on the handle, apply the camera to the scene & model, then render, the wall in the distance is in focus but not the handle? When I move the camera closer to the handle, the handle comes into focus as if auto focus is on but I have it unchecked? I tried reseting the camera but to no avail.

Image

I apologize for the premature render but these renders are taking me a good 2-3 hours per frame on my puny i7 machine.

I'm using a shallow DOF with the aperture at F/1.4

It's probably a human error so what am I doing wrong?

Thanks guys and keep the inspiration coming!

EDIT::
It seems to be a bug in skindigo. "Apply to scene" keeps autofocus on regardless if it's checked or not. If you create a new scene and only click "apply to model", it should work.

Re: Skindigo, Focal Point problem

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 11:34 pm
by CTZn
Welcome Joey

Indigo has an auto-focus feature, make sure that it is ticked off in SkIndigo. Just a headsup, I don't know where exactly it is placed...

When it's on, Indigo will focus the surface in the center of the image.

Re: Skindigo, Focal Point problem

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:29 am
by joeyslucky22
Hey CTZn, Thanks for the welcome and reply!

I triple checked to see if autofocus was off and it was.

It's under under Plugins -> Skindigo -> Render Settings -> Camera

I've tried unchecking autofocus, apply to scene, apply to model, but nothing seems to be working? I've made absolutely sure the focal point is on the handle too?

Re: Skindigo, Focal Point problem

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:51 am
by CTZn
I checked your image and, effectively auto-focus was off. I can't give you the answer you need because it is specific to SkIndigo. Hold on, you should be heard.

Your best pick though would be to post in the SkIndigo forum !

Re: Skindigo, Focal Point problem

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:49 am
by Pibuz
CTZn wrote:Your best pick though would be to post in the SkIndigo forum !
Sure it would.

BTW, just to make sure: you want the handle on focus and everything else out of focus?
If so, it's good to have a f=1.4, right choice :wink:
As you already did, UNCHECK the autofocus option and pick the desired focal point.
Apply the changes to your scene/model.

This is the basic workfow. It usually works (99.9999% of the times..).
Try again, if it still doesn't work, try sending me the scene, I'd give it a shot, no problem.

Re: Skindigo, Focal Point problem

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 10:03 am
by joeyslucky22
Wow, I really appreciate the quick responses guys! I'll head over to the sketchup forum.

Pibuz, I've attached a .zip with the project and scene. I hope you can help me figure this out!

Thanks again guys!

Re: Skindigo, Focal Point problem

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:45 pm
by Pibuz
Ok Joey, I gave your scene a look. There is actually something wrong with it: I tried the normal procedure and that didn't work. I thought it was something scale-related (I usually work in meters, and Indigo too..) but that wasn't the problem.

Then I simply copied all the objects of the scene into a new file, repeated the usual DOF workflow and it all was all right. I guess something got messed up when you tried the new "apply to scene/to model" feature. It is a new entry so it may be still very buggy.

Attached my test file.

Re: Skindigo, Focal Point problem [found bug]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:55 am
by joeyslucky22
That was going to be my next step :wink:

You're right though it is a bug. It seems to be the "apply to scene" that breaks it and keeps it in autofocus. If I create a new scene and do not apply the camera to the scene and just the model, it works fine.

Thanks a bunch for the help Pibuz! I'm glad we were able to figure it out!

Re: Skindigo, Focal Point problem

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:10 am
by Pibuz
No problem, my pleasure.

Hope Whaat is following this thread so he can add this issue to the "Save to scene/model" feature bugs (and hopefully fix it).

Re: Skindigo, Focal Point problem

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:29 am
by Whaat
Pibuz wrote:No problem, my pleasure.

Hope Whaat is following this thread so he can add this issue to the "Save to scene/model" feature bugs (and hopefully fix it).
Thanks for the bug reports! I will try to fix this next release.

I hope it was worth the effort to add the 'Apply to Scene' feature. I had a feeling that it could be still buggy.

Re: Skindigo, Focal Point problem [Known Bug]

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:04 pm
by Pibuz
It is indeed very handy...once it works properly! :lol: